January 2000 Message Board

Jan 1, 2000 - 00:00 - From: Doug

I'd like to be the first to Welcome everyone to the Year 2000 !!!

"Elan Gathering 2000" is coming!!
Planned for Saturday, January 15th, here in L.A. Mark your calendars and start getting excited--this Gathering will be bigger and better than the last! And for you owners not in the US, you still have time to arrange for overseas shipment of your Elans in time for the big event!!

Click here for more details. If you have any suggestions for the event, drop me a note!

Jan 1, 2000 - 14:40 - From: HARLAN
Title: INTERIOR LIGHTS
Message: I JUST PURCHASED MY M100 91 CAL. RED. 3900 MILES. I HAVE ENJOYED IT SO FAR. PROBLEM WAS THAT THE INTERIOR LIGHTS WERE NOT OPERATING CHECKED THE FUSE BOX 5 AMP FUSE MISSING REPLACED AND WITHIN 2 DAYS THE BATTERY WAS DEAD. RECHARGED THE BATTERY, REMOVED THE FUSE ALL IS WELL BUT STILL IN DARKNESS. THE REMOVAL OF THE FUSE WAS THE OBVIOUS FIX BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER. OPEN CIRCUIT? ANY SUGGESTIONS OR HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. THANKS HAPPY NEW YEAR.

Jan 1, 2000 - 19:22 - From: charlie
Title: lights
Message: are the interior lights going off ? if not its probably a door switch.

Jan 2, 2000 - 07:50 - From: George
Title: This Sucks!!!
Message: Ok, what a way to start the year. Just put on the bypass valve and air intake. Get this, the car is slower!!! My mechanic and I checked the set up, everything looks fine. Those guys have been working on my car for years, so I am pretty sure they didn't screw up. Besides, how can you screw up just putting on some plumbing. What can be wrong? For some strange reason, first gear is a little slower, 2nd gear, after 3000 rpm it feels super weak. The bottom line is, I feel like I am driving a Civic or something. LOW LOW LOW on power. I can definitely hear the air intake and bypass valve working. However, I feel there is almost not turbo boost at all. The gauge is working, but we all know how accurate that thing is. Could this be the CAS problem symptom? My fuel pressure regulator kit will be here next week. We'll see what goes on then.

Jan 2, 2000 - 12:01 - From: Doug
Title: Stuff
Message: First, the New Years' Drive was AWESOME!! Lots of vintage big money cars and some sweet canyon driving with Ryan! I will be on Holiday for a while--it's about time! I need some more pictures sent so I can get new stuff up on the Front Page when I get back! George, that doesn't make sense, since the bypass and air filter do not change the running of the engine in any way! Perhaps there is a leak at one of the pipe seals that is bleeding your boost away. I will send emails to everyone nearby for the Gathering when I return!! I will have my buddy and his digital camera along for some excellent photo journalism of the event.

Jan 3, 2000 - 12:36 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Tire pressure
Message: I would like to know at what temperature to check the pressure -- refer to cold in the hand book but what is the actually temperature as I noticed that the elan is exceptionally prone to variation in handling due to tire pressure. Hi, Doug did you receive my emails or is my email still malfunctioning? my laptop fairly new 6 months suffered a problem with my hard disk wiping out everything.

Jan 3, 2000 - 14:43 - From: Thomas
Title: Spark plugs
Message: Can someone recommend a good set of spark plugs for the Elan?? Thanks!

Jan 3, 2000 - 18:16 - From: Jade
Title: Interior Lights
Message: Harlan, if the lights are going out when the door is shut you might want to check the trunk. After I had the car painted the trunk was not hitting the light kill switch and ran my battery down. Happy New Year everyone hope it was a good one. Jade

Jan 4, 2000 - 18:09 - From: Ben Tennyson
Title: alternator
Message: Bert My alternator was intermittent sometimes no charge sometimes overcharge I had it replaced with one I bought from PEP BOYS #0-90244-14971 This is an exact replacement with a lifetime warranty for $155.00 I went ahead and had the timing belt and water pump replaced at the same time.

Jan 4, 2000 - 22:52 - From: Andy Y.
Title: Alt.
Message: I've have problems w/ over the counter (rebuilt) alternators because the factory uses cheap diodes/bearings/brushes. The lifetime warranty is GREAT, but this doesn't include the labor...Consider rebuilding the unit. Find a reputable alternator/starter shop and have 'em refurbish you original unit. If it's overcharging, it's only the built in regulator around $10-$20 for a good quality part. Might as well have 'em replace the brushes (few $$$) and the bearings ($1-$2)...all-in-all you'll have a better unit that is reliable; not assembled by a rebuilder on a production line. I had mine rewound w/ higher current coils and an external regulator/diodes (the heat kills 'em!) It's capable of 100amp @ idle compared to (I believe 40-50amp)! I had this done for the additional amps, but I'm still using the single battery. Andy.

Jan 5, 2000 - 12:34 - From: Bill Luton
Title: Paging Mr. David Schmidt
Message: David: Please telephone or email me, I have some questions concerning the parts that arrived today. Bill Luton (314) 843-4666

Jan 6, 2000 - 03:25 - From: George
Title: Stuff...
Message: So this is what I figured out about what may be wrong about my car's performance. 1. The timing may be a little off and CAS may be the culprit of it as well. However, the check engine light is not on; it idles quite smoothly; also, I am able to hit 6000 rpm, it just that the power does not feel like it's building up at all after about 3500 rpm. So if anyone has any advices, please post or email me. 2. My car was impounded for about 6 month 3 years ago (Don't ask.....). After that, that's when I start to feel the performance degrading every time I drive my car. I think it could be a fuel system problem. Maybe clogged fuel line or injector. I really hope it's not the fuel pump. By the way, did anyone replaced their fuel pumps yet? What are some of the significant symptoms? Anyway, it's embarrassing that my E430 kicks my Elan's a** in an acceleration test.

Jan 6, 2000 - 11:26 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Lotus, Lotus
Message: I am sad to say I just sold my elan. A man walked up and offered me a price that was just $7000 sing dollars below what I paid for a year ago. An excellent deal so I sold it. The depreciation lower than a ford 1.6 litre in s'pore. At S$7000 there seem to be no cheaper car. I love the car. I hope to get another elan at a good price. All in all an excellent car low gas consumption high power great road holding reliable( never got towed) and low depreciation. Bought a BMW( another one) for the time being. Hope to find another elan.

Jan 6, 2000 - 12:47 - From: Scott
Title: Hey audio fans...
Message: If you remember from the December posts, I was in the process of upgrading the stock audio equipment. I recently put in a 6 cd player in the glovebox. Took up only about 40% of total available space! I have one concern that took me by surprise. The headunit that I installed had the identical wiring scheme as the original Sony. For all 4 speakers, the striped wire was the negative terminal. So, I connected the new unit up the same way. Well, when I got to removing the speakers, I noticed that all the striped wires were going to the POSITIVE terminals! This is not a simple mix-up since each terminal has a unique connector. Its seems pretty universal that the striped wire is negative, and that includes many wiring kits. I am going to test each line to confirm there's no switch-a-roo going on between the unit and speaker...and then connect based on the test instead of visual cues. Anyone else experience this too??? -Scott

Jan 6, 2000 - 19:36 - From: charlie
Title: george / CAS
Message: the CAS , as i understand it, only is used for 1000rpm or less. It will affect the engine performance if it isnt working because the computer shuts stuff down, if the engines idles at 1000rpm at startup with no problems its unlikely to be that, i think its 2800//3700rpm limited check my CAS page for the exact details, also a obvious one but check if your engine warning light is actually working If the problem is intermittent and CAS switches on and off, the engine will act up while driving, but you will get a light (if its working) as the ECM will limit rpms and the turbo whilst driving I`d be happy to look at with you as you are in my area Won't changing the wastegate potentially cause problems if it isn't set correctly ? or is that just the manual boost controller.

Jan 7, 2000 - 03:18 - From: Doug
Title: for George
Message: Just stopping in on the site while on vacation. George, try unhooking the Boost Control Frequency Solenoid (see engine component location page in repair section). It may be limiting your boost now that you have the open filter! It doesn't do anything anyway except limit full boost under low RPMs. Let me know if it helps ;-)

Jan 7, 2000 - 11:51 - From: Loren
Title: stuff (battery voltage?)
Message: After trouble-shooting a no-start (bad battery, corroded terminal connections & starter solenoid connector) and replacing all this electrical stuff I noticed a huge improvement in acceleration above 3000 rpm. Apparently the battery voltage is very important in making all the engine electronics work OK - also a good multimeter helps check out the circuits. The battery terminals are kind of a thin strap+clamp so I replaced with a solid brass type plus a new EXIDE battery. The charging circuit works better now too. I think that these parts were degrading over time and just didn't notice until failure!

Jan 7, 2000 - 16:00 - From: George
Title: Hey Loren, Doug, and Charlie
Message: First, I would like to say that I am so touched you guys are giving me such good advices. You guys are great! I will take that boost control frequency valve this weekend and see what happens. Charlie, I'll get in touch with you and see if we can figure some other craps out together. Loren, now I think about it, my battery is not in top shape. If I don't drive my car for a week, the battery would be dead. I was just wondering if it was the battery or the alternator. I think I got a new battery a few years ago. However, I am not too sure. If it's the stock battery, then I think it's definitely time for replacement. It's been what? 10 yrs?

Jan 8, 2000 - 00:08 - From: Joe S.
Title: Crazy hose - short plug wires
Message: I tried to go for my first Y2K ride this week and I should have known a bug was going to strike sooner or later. I was letting the car warm up and pisssssssssssssssssss. This small-crazy looking antifreeze line (shaped like a tree branch / 2 hose that go to 1 ) which comes off the back of the thermostat housing is spraying my engine bay. My reason for this message is that this hose lays on a hot return line (oil I think) and the hose just finally melted at the hot point. You may want to check yours for heat damage / premature wear. While I have all the items off to replace - I figure what a great time to replace the spark plug wires. Open the new set that I have stored for about a year and "crap" - they're all 4 inches too short (must be made by Lucas). Apparently, this has happened to others confirmed by JAE. For the writer above looking for plugs - the factory NGKs are good, but hard to find off your local auto store shelf. But, I have had very good luck (check them often) with Champion "Premium Gold" #2071 - and they even come in a box of 4. Champion lists our car as a 1992/93 but the other specs are correct. I am awaiting new wires - so someone enjoy a ride for me. Joe S.

Jan 8, 2000 - 11:12 - From: peterseow
Title: hoses
Message: There should be a plastic protection that lifts up the hose or rather covers up the hose and protects it from the heat from lying on the engine it self. All the hoses connecting the turbo should be changed as the turbo unit is very hot. Just beware of the hoses and the plastic from the electric water pump from cracking up.

Jan 9, 2000 - 06:32 - From: George
Title: Battery part number.
Message: Hey Loren, what's the part number for the Excide battery you are talking about?

Jan 9, 2000 - 07:13 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Toping up coolant
Message: Is it necessary to top up coolant? I had to top up mine once a month about half a litre. I that normal or is there a leak in the cooling system? Although I have sold my elan, I would be buying another when I get one a a good price.

Jan 9, 2000 - 07:20 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Problems
Message: I wonder if any one who own an elan think that it gives you problems. I was keen on buying a maserati and I managed to speak to an owner today. I was shock that he had to spend S$30000 on repairs to own the car for four years and he told me that fuses would blow up periodically. The engine blow up etc..... so did the turbo. The elan especially mine gave little trouble...... Long live the elan ...... about the best and most reliable car.........

Jan 10, 2000 - 08:14 - From: Steve P
Title: Coolant & Spark Leads
Message: If you're having to top the coolant up on a regular basis then you've got a leak! It can be either be a bad hose/joint or a sign that the engine's headgasket is on its way out :-( If you buy new spark leads from Lotus be very careful. I had a wasted journey after discovering that Lotus had been supplying the shorter non Turbo Elan leads under the correct Turbo Elan part number! Take them out the pack and double check to avoid a wasted afternoon! They're a fiddle to fit too ;-)

Jan 12, 2000 - 09:03 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Esprits, Elans
Message: Firstly, thanks to Steve about the info regarding the coolant system. I figured out that it's 2-3ml a day and when I owned the there was no leaks from the pipes. There seem to be water mark near the timing belt. I could be a water pump leak or head gasket. I am now deciding whether to get an esprit or elan ? Any comments? The esprit has a problem for being troublesome. I am looking at a early 80s esprit. There seem to be very poor resale value -- nobody want an esprit at the moment. Is that the same in your country. I saw an other elan probably in bad condition --- I will have to haggle hard or forget about it.

Jan 12, 2000 - 10:52 - From: Jade
Title: No Upper RPMs
Message: Needs some help here. I am not able to pull more then 4000 RPMs in 4th gear. When in 3rd and I get into the upper range it feels like someone is holding onto my bumper. It shows that I am getting all the boost but just not getting any RPM action. Is this a timing problem or lack of air or fuel? Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Jade

Jan 12, 2000 - 12:29 - From: George Swetland
Title: Are we alone?
Message: A recent search for a new lower-lip-spoiler-thingie that always gets knocked off on parking bumps reveals that there are apparently no authorize or non-authorized Lotus dealers in the LA basin... Kensington is gone as well as Bauer... Some place that sells Lambo's in irvine supposedly took on the marque, and they won't return calls regarding parts. Is Dave Bean Engr. able to sell parts for the old 'newer' cars? Has anyone found a reasonably priced substitute for this item? Has Lotus once again gone into the Crapper? Geo

Jan 12, 2000 - 13:19 - From: George
Title: Hey Peter and Jade
Message: Peter, DO NOT get an early 80's Esprit. In fact, if you are going to get an Esprit, don't get anything before '95. I heard horror stories. Also, my friend's family used to be a Lotus Dealer in Taiwan, so I know... Jade, I think you are having the same problem I am having. My guess is the problem could be what your guesses are. It would be either air/fuel, timing, or O2 sensor and/or battery like Loren mentioned. Anyhow, I am going to do a thorough fuel system clean up, reset the timing, get a new O2 sensor and battery. I'll let you know how it goes when it's done.

Jan 12, 2000 - 16:22 - From: Steve P
Title: Lotus Ownership
Message: I've been browsing the Elise sites and postings, and boy am I glad I've got an Elan. The Elise seems to have problems you'd never consider possible on an Elan. I can't believe a modern car can have so much go wrong! When you consider the mileages we've clocked up in our Elans' it really shows you what a reliable car it is. I guess we've got GM to thank! Lotus are not doing themselves any favours. It does not give me any confidence in considering the purchase of another Lotus car in the future. I want more than JUST great handling. If Lotus Cars are to survive they had better start engineering in some quality. Why does the suspension on a £23k+ sports car from a suspension specialist like Lotus sound like a bag of nails?! I don't like to moan but this sort of think does not make me proud to be British :-(

Jan 12, 2000 - 18:32 - From: charlie
Title: Jade -
Message: Sounds like a possible CAS failure, especially its 3700rpm this is when the ECM starts to limit, when something goes wrong, with the history of the CAS failures seems likely that's what my problem was with that symptom is it idling smoothly? i'd just like to remind everyone i have flow chart troubleshooting diagrams on my web site for most of these problems, they have a lot of info in them.

Jan 12, 2000 - 19:40 - From: Jade
Title: CAS and Esprit
Message: I had the CAS and entire computer replaced about 3 years ago, and I am able to get up to redline in 1st,2nd & 3rd. 3rd just feels sluggish. I just replaced my O2 sensor last month as well as plugs. Could it be plug wires? Charlie I will check your chart, thanks for the info. Peter here is a web address for Esprits it looks very informative. http://z.interspeed.net/speedshop/pub/photos/cars/lotus/Facts.html Good luck. Jade

Jan 12, 2000 - 21:10 - From: Peter Seow
Title: CAS
Message: Stupid CAS.... It gets damaged easily within 2-3 years. Jade, check the CAS again. Mine was replaced when it was 3 years ago... I replaced it one the six year..... It could be the CAS again. It's unlikely to be the oxygen sensor, but check take the connection out and drive the car the engine check lights will appear.. see if you can get to higher rpms on fourth .... make sure the cops can't see you ... To get to high rpms on forth it will be closer to 200 km/h.

Jan 12, 2000 - 23:48 - From: Loren
Title: Battery # for George
Message: George: Sorry I'm late in getting this out - its income tax time again. I bought a battery at CarQuest which claims it is a EXIDE -maybe- anyway: CarQuest # CQB47-600. It fit OK except I had to crunch the removable plate clamp a little. Your alternator should always be charging 13.2 to 15.2 volts, even on full load the voltage should not drop below about 13.0V. Good luck

Jan 13, 2000 - 11:10 - From: Loren
Title: Battery # for George
Message: George; I actually replaced the M100 battery with a CarQuest, which they claim is built by Exide. The CarQuest number is CQB47-600, and it fit with a slight more bend in the removable plate clamp at the front. Also used new solid brass battery terminal connectors. Your alternator should never drop below 13.0 volts, even when full electrical load.

Jan 13, 2000 - 11:27 - From: Dan
Title: Lower-lip-spoiler
Message: George--- I recall from older message posts that Doug may have had a KIA connection for the rubber chin spoiler lip that was much less expensive than purchase from Lotus....I need one too! Anybody else? How about a group order? Can we still get the Korean equivalent, Doug?

Jan 13, 2000 - 13:46 - From: Doug
Title: Driveway Scraper / Battery
Message: Yes, Andy Yim is the connection for the driveway scraper (sorry Andy)--he may or may not have any left. So I just returned from vacation to find my Elan battery dead. the battery is completely dead so I suspect something like the damn trunk light was stuck on. Luckily if I need a new one the recent number from Loren will come in handy.

Jan 14, 2000 - 11:38 - From: Rob Edwards
Title: Brake Pads & Steering Squeaks
Message: As a complete idiot technically can anyone tell me if whilst in the UK I can change my brake pads at a standard drive in garage (like a kwik fit) I get the impression that they may need changing, although the brakes on the elan were never great I think that they need looking at. Also when cold my steering makes some awful noises, is it the plastic and metal rubbing or is it something else, maybe the power steering. ???

Jan 14, 2000 - 13:16 - From: Doug
Title: for Rob
Message: Rob, a good/competent garage/mechanic/drive-in should be able to do the brakes without a problem. Some of us would go so far to say these places may be more competent than the dealer?! Call around to find a place that is FAMILIAR with the Elan and has the brakes in stock! You may need the rotors/discs resurfaced if they are not very smooth. Any shop that is good can do this, but if it has been done once or twice before then you may need new discs. In this case I'd recommend the EBC discs, which you will not find at any garage. Perhaps some UK chaps can recommend a place for you?? You can check Charlie's site for the schematics of the brakes and the changing instructions in the manuals. Also beware of the shop using the air-wrench to put the lugs ON, as they should be "HAND-TORQUED" to 59-65 lb/ft = 80-89 Nm. If torqued wrong they can warp your calipers, and a shop that won't do this is not worth going to. Also it seems everyone has the creaking at the driver's end of the steering wheel which is nothing to worry about. If the sound is coming from elsewhere then it needs checking, starting with the fluid level--and the power steering fluid is NOT conventional but is actually ATF tranny fluid.

Jan 14, 2000 - 14:01 - From: gary
Title: lower lip spoiler
Message: Dan I would like to replace the rubber spoiler on my Elan too. If you want to make a "group order" count me in. Perhaps, if he does not mind, Andy Yim could get a couple more from Kia for us. I also need some advice from anyone ..I bought my car without a radio, and now want to add one with a CD. I love the red dials and lights on the dash ...Who makes a radio to match the interior, or where can I get a good used one? Gary

Jan 14, 2000 - 14:03 - From: Joe S.
Title: Antifreeze flush
Message: I just ordered my long needed Service Notes, but would like to do a antifreeze flush this weekend. Is there a place, easier than others, to drain the coolant - radiator - hoses etc..................... Thanks

Jan 14, 2000 - 16:42 - From: Rob Edwards
Title: Doug you continue to be a legend
Message: Doug thanks for the words of advice again !!! I'll shop around tomorrow. Cheers and happy new year

Jan 14, 2000 - 18:10 - From: Doug
Title: stuff
Message: Gary, where do you live?--you're not on the Owners' List! I assume you may need a complete system, since the car was "without stereo"?? Andy Y is a "stereo man" too! All who have mentioned their systems seem to have done it a bit differently. Personally I have and would recommend a system with top-end door speakers (about 5 1/2" 2 ways), a subwoofer behind the driver's seat (8"), a 4 channel amp with crossovers driving the speakers (behind the passenger's seat speaker box), and either a high-end CD tuner with good clean power or a tuner with CD changer in the trunk or glovebox. You will never hear any rear speakers well, so don't waste time with them. Get great front door speakers and a subwoofer to fill in the bass and it will sound great! (regardless of the music you listen too) You will need an amp to get clean power so you can hear the tunes well with the top down!! Get a "Crutchfield Catalog" sent to you (find them online) as it lists the specs/prices/etc of many, many different brands of all the above components. My recommendation comes from the work of the infamous Seamus, who gave his car to a high-end stereo store to experiment with for as long as they wanted to come up with the best sounding system--and I got the same thing (sans new head unit) after hearing how great his was!! Also this retains the "stock" look of the car, without cutting any new holes, etc. Plan to spend $1-2K on the entire system! This is not cheap but will get you a great stereo that will not need future upgrading--consider how much you could spend on just tires/wheels/detailing and the price is not too bad. Joe, there is a "drain plug" on the lower left of the radiator--see my write-up on the topic. But be GENTLE with it as someone (Dean G.?) broke one while removing it and was stuck without the car until a replacement part came in. You can use the lower radiator hose too. Be sure to flush it and use distilled H2O in the replacement coolant! Let us know how it goes.

Jan 14, 2000 - 18:16 - From: Doug
Title: oh yeah . . .
Message: Gary, be sure not to put any components in the trunk as it is prone to leaking in rain and we have heard all about ruined stereo components from this before. ALSO be sure not to drill BEHIND the driver's (left) seat rear hull wall, as you can penetrate the fuel tank this way--and this would be a bad thing! Find a competent stereo shop that will not ruin your Elan putting it all together, and be sure to read/print the door panel removal instructions (on Charlie's site) from my "repairs" section.

Jan 14, 2000 - 19:27 - From: George
Title: Stereos
Message: Ahhh, the stereo enthusiasts. I put two pairs of separates in my Elan. Had to drill some holes for the tweeters. However, I think the sound is worth it. My recommendation for stereo components: Pioneer Premiere Series (head components), Soundstream Reference amps, Soundstream Reference Speakers, A/D/S speakers, and Kick Solo. Subs. Make sure you also get an extra grounding device such as a electrical noise eliminator. The Elan is fiberglass, it's hard to get a good grounding on the car. Also, get some Dynamat for noise and vibration insulation. It's worth the extra cash. I truly believe that my stereo system is the main culprit for rattle my internal door parts loose. If I only put them Dynamats in from the very beginning.....

Jan 14, 2000 - 22:04 - From: Andy Y
Title: None
Message: Just got back from my vaca...my ears were burning...you guys write a lot! Had the Consumer Elec. show in Vegas, didn't see anything cool this year...Anyways, just my luck Doug, looks like I'll be missing your meeting, but coincidentally - I was in Santa Monica wed/thurs! I was just hoping to see a Brit green Elan...my girl wanted to see the beach, so Santa M. looked closest to water from LA. - I couldn't remember if you lived in Santa Barb/Santa Mon...Anyways, I'm back and open to any questions. Andy

Jan 17, 2000 - 01:35 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Stereos
Message: I hope that when a stereo is fitted, you don't ruin the looks of your elan don't drill extra holes. Try your best not to get second hand head unit unless they are dirt cheap and from a reputable brand like nakamichi or alpine. From what I know sony unit don't last. I had three cars which came with them and they all failed to work within two to three years.

Jan 17, 2000 - 12:53 - From: Thomas
Title: Head lights
Message: One of my head light went out yesterday. I was wondering if any one else has their lights replaced. Can I just change the bulb or do I have to change the whole light?? Any parts number or equivalent will help. Thanks!

Jan 17, 2000 - 13:16 - From: Rod Little
Title: Headlights
Message: Thomas, you can just change the bulb. Its tricky to get your hands in to do it - but trust me, it is possible.

Jan 17, 2000 - 14:01 - From: Thomas
Title: Head lights
Message: Rod, do you know what kind of bulb it is?? Or do you have any details on how to change the bulb?? Thanks!

Jan 17, 2000 - 16:32 - From: George
Title: Light Bulbs.
Message: Thomas, look into the LotusElanCentral site. I've copied the url of the bulbs for ya--http://www.lotuselancentral.com/lightbulbs.htm

Jan 17, 2000 - 20:05 - From: Jamie
Title: Head Lights
Message: FYI - I just installed some HID head lights into my Elan. They work GREAT! I used Hella 5-3/4 round head lamp (Aprx. $85) and an after-market HID kit (Aprox. $500 - Included Bulbs, igniter, ballast, and wiring.) If anyone is interested let me know. For those that don't know much about HID (High Intensity Discharge) lights, the above is an excellent deal....

Jan 18, 2000 - 00:04 - From: Doug
Title: Headlights
Message: Thomas, see the online list or your owners manual for the light code. Get a halogen bulb, of course (about $10)--they can be found in most auto stores. The trick for changing it is to turn on the lights to raise the pod, then disconnect the 10mm nut holding either end of the pushrod. (Be careful not to drop the nut or washer into the abyss of the engine bay.) With this done you can (1) turn the lights off and save your battery and (2) raise the pod up even a bit higher GENTLY to help you get the old light out. Undo the 3 front screws and take the assembly out from the inside to the front and then you'll figure the rest out.

Jan 18, 2000 - 13:20 - From: Thomas
Title: Head lights
Message: Thanks guys, I sure will try this out tonight! I think I'll just go for the regular halogen bulb.... the HID sounds great but it costs a bit too much.

Jan 18, 2000 - 14:57 - From: Bill Luton
Title: Air Filter and such
Message: I've managed to track down a K&N drop in air filter that will substitute for the OEM air filter in the OEM air filter canister. I've added it to the online catalog at: http://www.isuzuperformance.com/bills/engint.html#k&n This is a replacement for the OEM filter offering higher flow and because it is a cotton element, can be washed and reused. _ _ _ I'd be curious for more details on the HID headlight conversion, the best price I've found is $399 per bulb and associated hardware or $789 to do two headlamps. $500 is quite a bit better. Did this include correcting the reflector for beam pattern? _ _ _ Bill Luton

Jan 18, 2000 - 15:28 - From: Rod Little
Title: Headlights
Message: Anyone got a URL for more information on HID lights ? Doug, I have managed ( approx 4 times ) to change headlight bulbs by just manually winding up the pod, and then getting my hand around the back, to pull out the old bulb and pop in a new one. Its a bit tricky but can be done. Perhaps next time I will remove the whole unit and save some knuckle skin ! All the best for your USA M100 meeting, I am sure we UK'ers will be trying to beat your turn out come the spring Lotus Donnington event.

Jan 19, 2000 - 02:51 - From: Jamie
Title: Head Lights
Message: Here are some URL for information on the HID lights. http://www.hidlights.com/ --->Check out the FAQ's section. This provides lots of good info about HID's. Also check out the photo gallery - Mitsu Eclipse. That's my friends car. It pulls a nice 12.9 Sec 1/4 Mile. Here is another place where you can purchase HID's for a better price and they are H-4 ready: http://www.bajadesigns.com/p25b.html I purchased mine from JC Whitney for $500. It was actually a HID driving light kit. For those that want to convert to Halogen bulbs or HID I recommend 5-3/4" round Hella head lamps. I have them and they work great. They have a Euro beam patter which I love. Here is the URL: http://catalog.com/susq/hella/headlamp.htm

Jan 20, 2000 - 03:28 - From: Kevin Toon
Title: Overboost
Message: About a year ago I fitter a Janspeed exhaust (mainly because I wanted a sportier exhaust note). Initially there seemed to be a little extra boost, but not a lot. This quickly returned to normal. Anyway having had a real service (the big 60K service - belts, new filters, gear shift cables - I stripped the end off one, etc. etc.) there's LOTs more boost on tap! Great... but if I accelerate hard.... engine warning light.. revs limited - (ECU codes indicate overboost - code 31 I think) which is not so great when overtaking! Damp conditions seem to make the condition more likely (air density). Driving with 1 eye on the boost gauge is my current workaround. But does anybody have any fixes for this, preferably without loosing that extra power I'm getting use to!

Jan 20, 2000 - 05:01 - From: dimitri
Title: overboost
Message: Kevin your problem is either a sticky waste gate actuator or very low exhaust backpressure (you need bigger waste gate). I have the same problem. First I modified the MAP sensor signal with a fuel cut defender (BBR) to avoid revs cut. This was the beginning of a major modification of my Elan because I was afraid of lean condition with the boost on 15-16 psi. If you interested I will write you the whole story of how my Elan is modified to have trustworthily 220 HP on the wheel.

Jan 20, 2000 - 10:05 - From: Kevin Toon
Title: Overboost
Message: Dimitri, the wastegate operates OK its just that free flowing exhaust/lack of back pressure you mention. I would certainly be interested in info on the other changes. I other suggestion I have had is to install the boost upgrade (controller etc. - not sure of all the details), but I'm not sure this would cure the problem!

Jan 20, 2000 - 11:56 - From: Bill Luton
Title: boost and exhaust
Message: I'm extremely skeptical of this overboost cutout due to reduction of exhaust backpressure idea. The latest trend with the 91 Impulse RS Turbo AWD owners is to totally remove the exhaust system and run a dump pipe from the turbo straight down and end it under the engine. For those unfamiliar with the Impulse RS, it shares the same engine and control system with the Elan. No reported problems, no cutout on running, etc. Engines always run better and produce more power without backpressure, and turbo engines benefit more than naturally aspirated engines. _ _ _ It is more likely that you have a sensor that is reading incorrectly or are in need of fuel system maintenance (clogged filter or clogged injectors) which was not evident when masked by the backpressure of the OEM exhaust system. _ _ _ Bill Luton

Jan 20, 2000 - 12:33 - From: Kevin Toon
Title: Re: boost and exhaust
Message: Bill, the fuel filter (along with all others) was replaced at the service, the (inaccurate) boost gauge reaches around 90% full scale (0.9 bar) under hard acceleration (this use to hit about 50%) with instantaneous peaks probably higher still, boost also seems to rise quicker/easier than before. Also, would I still have the dramatic power increase I have if been running lean (in which case I guess its by-by pistons!)?

Jan 20, 2000 - 14:16 - From: Bill Luton
Title: boost
Message: Sounds like someone accidentally unplugged the pressure reference hose between the turbo outlet and the wastegate actuator. You said the vehicle had just been serviced and that the gauge now read higher boost. Gauges don't usually get more sensitive as they get older, usually less, so it is likely seeing more boost. What you are describing is identical to the symptoms of setting a manual boost controller too high and bouncing off the fuel cut. _ _ _ Bill Luton

Jan 20, 2000 - 16:48 - From: dimitri
Title: Hi Bill
Message: Bill I am sure that if the trend you mention above was modified with a 2-1/2 " or 3" pipe ending at the back of the car then the improve would be much better and the boost control impossible to control without bigger external wastegate.

Jan 20, 2000 - 16:52 - From: dimitri
Title: Hi Bill
Message: By the way the K&N drop in filter is better than anything else (any intake combination)

Jan 20, 2000 - 19:48 - From: Doug
Title: overboost
Message: Just to add info, I had little to no back pressure when my downpipe was broken for a month and I had NO change in turbo performance or boost peaks. Kevin, if you could use a "Tech-1" tool "real-time" while driving you could see the sensor states and see if any were reading incorrectly. I think you may have a malfunctioning wastegate.

Jan 21, 2000 - 10:00 - From: Otto
Title: Tech1
Message: http://www.andywhittaker.com/ecu/ecu_software.htm

Jan 21, 2000 - 15:56 - From: charlie
Title: air filter
Message: i've had that k&n air filter for nearly two years and i have had no troubles with it On another note does anyone know where the drain holes are under the passenger side footwell, i drove to seattle and back in wet weather and freeways with huge puddles =( and i have a small pond in the front of the car now, i have been keeping miniature koi's in there but i'm a bit worried my passengers might step on them so i'd like to remove them and the water.

Jan 21, 2000 - 20:04 - From: Andy Y.
Title: K&N Filter
Message: Bill/Charlie, Do you have the part # for the K&N? I'd like to get one locally. Andy.

Jan 22, 2000 - 11:49 - From: Colin
Title: Bypass Valve
Message: I am about to fit a bypass valve. Fitting it to the turbo feed pipe just in front of the water reservoir is a bit cramped as it will protrude about 4 1/4 inches from the pipe and will likely touch the air filter box. It is a piston type valve (I am told these are less likely to cause problems with tickover). Before I fit it, has anyone else had problems with fitting please. It looks simple enough apart from the space problem. The turbo pipe is of changing dimension but I guess tightening up the jubilee clips will fix any slackness on the right-hand side. Thanks Guys Colin

Jan 22, 2000 - 12:44 - From: Peter Seow
Title: K and N filter
Message: It works best. I bought a car with it. I still have the box and packing etc.... I can give you the number of the K and N if anybody's interested. It cost only about US$30 a few years ago.

Jan 24, 2000 - 10:54 - From: Bill Luton
Title: Elan Review; Classic Car contact information
Message: Does anyone have contact information (an address) for Classic Car Magazine, UK? _ _ _ Bill Luton

Jan 25, 2000 - 10:06 - From: Rod Little
Title: Classic Cars Mag
Message: Bill, there are several Classic Car mags ( all with much the same name ) I take it you mean the one Doug makes reference to, if so. Editorial Enquires : Thoroughbred & Classic Cars Editorial, Bushfield House, Orton Centre, Peterborough PE2 5UW Tel : 01733 465798 fax : 01733 465587 email : classic.cars@ecm.emap.com Advertising Enquires : Thoroughbred & Classic Cars, Advertising, 2nd Floor, Bretton Court, Bretton, Peterborough PE3 8DZ tel : 01733 264666 fax : 01733 465449 Advertising Manager : Lisa Turner Tel : 01733465965 email : lisa.turner@ecm.emap.com Subscriptions & back issues : Thoroughbred & Classic Cars Subscriptions, Soverign Park, Leicester LE87 4PA Tel : 01858 438820 email : emap@subscription.co.uk Road Test Photocopies contact Teresa Ainley Tel : 01733 465798 There are more names and numbers, especially for advertising.

Jan 26, 2000 - 14:29 - From: Steve P
Title: Interesting Elan stuff?!
Message: Thought this guy's site might interest you: www.jackalsforge.freeserve.co.uk/elan.html Has some interesting pics and ownership notes! Cheers, Steve ;-)

Jan 26, 2000 - 20:27 - From: Bill Luton
Title: Thanks
Message: Thanks Rod and Barry for the magazine contact information._ _ _Bill Luton

Jan 26, 2000 - 22:18 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Esprit Vs Elan
Message: Has anybody made a comparison between these two cars??? I felt that the Esprits roadholding was just fantastic seems better than the elan so is the power is that true or is it just my imagination. I tested the 82 2.2 litre high compression turbo. However, ever other thing seems faulty -- faulty engine mounts, spoilt power windows/locks/mirrors/steering rack/ cracking sounds etc....

Jan 26, 2000 - 23:34 - From: Jamie
Title: Northern Cal Elan Owners
Message: Finally no more rain in Northern Cal. and the forecast calls for a clear sunny weekend. Is anyone up for a Northern Cal. Elan meet???? I hear highway 35 (Skyline) calling!!!!

Jan 27, 2000 - 04:52 - From: Martin Burhouse
Title: silk red
Message: Can anyone tell me how many silk red elan's were made? Does anyone wan't to buy mine 1992 K, 60K miles, FLSH, £15K

Jan 27, 2000 - 06:54 - From: Jason
Title: Rattle - HELP!
Message: Hi all, long time no post......I've got a problem at the moment with a "rattling"/ "vibrating" sound coming from the engine bay. It often happens when I accelerate between 5000 and 5500 rpm. It also happens though at other speeds, especially at crawling / 1st gear speeds. The noise is the same regardless - ie frequency, pitch etc. Even more alarming is that it happens more often when turning Left, the more lock, the more likely it is to happen. Its not the heatshield. My lotus dealer and a specialist have looked at it but can't diagnose the problem. While I enjoy paying 55 UKP an hour for their services, I am loathe to give it to them again. Your ideas welcome Cheers, Jason

Jan 27, 2000 - 08:13 - From: MartinC
Title: Lotus Servicing
Message: Could anyone let me know/remind me of what the standard servicing grades constitute. My Elan is up for a B&C in the next few months but I can't remember what that means it needs. I've looked in the owners handbook but there is no description of what they are. If anyone could also give me an idea of what the usual prices are for the different grades that too would be great (UK prices). Thanks.

Jan 27, 2000 - 10:19 - From: Rod Little
Title: Rear Strut
Message: Anyone got a rear strut fitted and want to comment on what they think of it and how much it costs ? Think the KIA guys were selling them.

Jan 27, 2000 - 10:42 - From: Jade
Title: Rattle and Air Intake
Message: Jason I am having that same rattle mine seems to happen at 3000rpms, I think it is coming from around the down pipe. I think something is getting a little lose and the resonance created at certain rpms set it off. Good luck. On a positive note I decided it was time to reroute the air intake. I have always felt that lack of air was part of my high RPM lag so it was time to do something about it. I had replace the canister filter with the K&N drop in about a year ago (thanks Doug) that helped a little. What I did was moved the air intake from behind the left headlight to below the radiator on that same side. The hose is long enough to be placed through one of the big holes in the front skid plate (red plastic thing with 2 big hole under the left radiator). The results were amazing, the response of the engine at upper RPMs is what is most noticeable. My biggest concern is that I do not want to start sucking up all the water and dirt from the road, any suggestions. I still have the filter to get the junk but will it slow the water down? Jade

Jan 27, 2000 - 11:51 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Service A, B, C
Message: Martin I still have the service descriptions...You can email me if you want them it is rather long. Service C is rather costly expect 500 - 1000 or more pounds.... You might as well have the water pump as well as the timing belts changed at the same time they are in the same area.. Drive shaft boots , radiator hoses, gaskets may soon need replacement get them all done at service C the biggest service and mostly costly service. It might all add up to 2000 pounds.

Jan 27, 2000 - 12:03 - From: Rod Little
Title: B&C Service costs - uk
Message: If the B&C is the 50k service, its the one that includes cam belt change etc. Best advice is to ring around and get quotes. It IS going to be expensive ( will try and look at my receipts tonight ), certainly over 500ukp, at a Lotus dealer.

Jan 27, 2000 - 15:57 - From: Dean
Title: An Every Day Car
Message: In late 1999 I found that the Elan does just fine pushing through torrential rain and flooded streets. This week I found out that it handles snow and ice quite well. It could use a bit more ground clearance in order to cruise over the bigger chunks of ice that liter the road. Oh, the joys of driving an Elan as an every day car.

Jan 27, 2000 - 22:08 - From: Doug
Title: Rattle and Hum
Message: Guys, beware of heatshields that loose screws and rattle; also the exhaust hanger under the mid-car can come loose and rattle; and the cat converter can delaminate inside of itself and rattle too! Jade the stock intake pipe has a "drain hole" in it at the low point which is below where the stock filter is--this should filter out small amounts of water. This also makes any "ram-air" effect ill-fated on this pipe. You should never have the intake down low where water can get to it without putting a "splash plate/deflector" in front of it so no water has a straight path into the pipe! Try turning the pipe so it doesn't face forward.

Jan 28, 2000 - 00:41 - From: william
Title: turboturboturbo
Message: I have just purchased a 91' Elan. I love the car, but i would like to know if anyone has changed the turbo for a bigger one.

Jan 28, 2000 - 00:53 - From: will
Title: sub woofers
Message: I wanted to know if anyone ran into problems installing a subwoofer in the trunk. And how was the sound quality?

Jan 28, 2000 - 03:32 - From: Kevin Toon
Title: UK Service Costs
Message: Lakeside Engineering have service costs on their web site www.lakesideengineering.com. They did my B&C service well enough and at a reasonable price - the Lotus dealers were way more. BTW thanks for the info on the overboost problem - haven't had chance to check it out yet, may be a job for next weekend.

Jan 28, 2000 - 09:54 - From: Bill Luton
Title: Turbos and Struts
Message: We offer turbo upgrades to the larger size IHI turbo by both Evergreen and Top End (quite frankly Evergreen has a better reputation and offers the same thing at a lower price because they actually service the unit themselves while Top End subs that work out to another company) and also conversions to the Garrett T3-T4 turbo by Speed Designs, check http://www.isuzuperformance.com/bills/engturbo.html . We also have the AVO struts available, check: http://www.isuzuperformance.com/bills/susshock.html#avo . _ _ _ Bill Luton

Jan 28, 2000 - 14:09 - From: George
Title: Subs in the trunk
Message: Will, I installed a pair of Kicker Solobarics subs in my trunk when I first got the car (about 7 yrs ago). Even after all the years, it still sounds fine. Installing the subs in an Elan is very tricky. It often put you in a compromising situation since it's such a tiny car. Two things you should remember when installing subs in an Elan: 1. Lay Dynamat in the truck area as well as stuff some in the trunk lock mechanism (it's not as bad as it sounds, just stuff enough so the lock still works while the Dynamat absorbs the rattles from your subs. 2. In order to get good sounds from the subs, you need to port the wall between the trunk and the passenger compartment. On my set up, the installer cut two 4" round holes and covered them up with speaker grill cloth that has the exact color match with the trunk carpet.

Jan 28, 2000 - 17:55 - From: Alan N.Y.L.O.C.[UK]
Title: Elan long-term care
Message: Just traded up my 1990 car for a 1995 S2 after 26000 memorable miles in 18 months. The new car's got to last a very long time. Any ideas on top of regular service? It's an everyday car, some days does 20miles,other days 500+.Been through the usual window motor and gearshift cable problems and don't want that expense again. Are there any hard to find parts worth stockpiling? Has anyone done a cable release mod for the boot like the later Elan +2? I get fed up of using the key 10 times a day.

Jan 28, 2000 - 22:24 - From: Jamie
Title: RE: Turbo upgrade
Message: Bill on the Garrett turbo upgrade what is done to the fuel system? Haltech computer? larger or secondary injectors?

Jan 28, 2000 - 22:44 - From: Andy Y
Title: Subs
Message: Will, George is right about perfing the wall, otherwise you have to push a lot of power to feel your music. If need trunk space, consider a baffle board setup. This is a board that holds the subs; it's pressed up against the wall in the trunk (the idea is to isolate the front waves from the rear). This won't handle much power since the woofers don't have an acoustic suspension (like in a sealed box). A solution to this is an aperiodic membrane. This goes in front of the woofers and controls the woofer movement. I used this setup w/ two Fosgate 12's with decent results. I've moved on...I'm using 10" spkrs now -- this is a good example of "it's not the size, just performance!" heh,heh? Anyways, the type of spkr (not brand), enclosure type, x-over point, use of a subsonic filter are all factors in having good BASS. Anything else?

Jan 28, 2000 - 22:56 - From: Andy Y
Title: Dynamat/Trunk release
Message: Oh yeah, I agree w/ George -- Dynamat is a good investment. A bit pricey, but better than the embarrassment of a rattling trunk as you cruise the boulevard...I used about 3 rolls through out mine. This company also makes the aperiodic membrane and sub filter. Actually, if you're interested contact me and make me an offer on my old system. The trunk release can be fabricated into a power system, but this means a solenoid the size of V8 (a delicious vegetable drink) can. This is the only reason I haven't attempted to install one. If you have to have one...it can be done. It can be actuated by a dash switch or via remote control through an alarm system/keyless entry. Andy.

Jan 28, 2000 - 23:31 - From: will
Title: intercoolers
Message: first of all. i would like to apologize for all of the questions. but i have another. has anyone installed an aftermarket intercooler. i would like a little more power out of my car. i don't really want to race it. i just want the good feeling of knowing that i can leave that annoying little mitsubishi eclipse in my rear view mirror.

Jan 28, 2000 - 23:36 - From: will
Title: for andy y
Message: i need your e-mail address. so i can make an offer for the system. i understand about the trunk rattle. i used to have a nissan 240sx. and i pushed two 15" mtx subs. i have a stockpile of dynamat.

Jan 29, 2000 - 10:13 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Hifi Systems
Message: Would anyone like to share their experience of brands of speakers and head units they consider the best? From what I know Rockford Fosgate sounded great compared to other speaker for their subs. Dynaudio is the best of them all any better. What head unit -- Alpine / Nakamichi??

Jan 29, 2000 - 10:31 - From: clay
Title: door motor
Message: has anyone out there got any info on the central door locking motor which is built into the door latch on the Elan. Mine has packed up and a replacement is £110 !! Does anyone know what other vehicles use this as its certainly not a Lotus part.

Jan 29, 2000 - 13:59 - From: Doug
Title: Intercoolers
Message: Will, you need to read up on the "manual boost controller" within the site--this little friend can bring serious smiles to your already grinning face. And you can get one going for possibly under $10! Then if the extra power is not enough, you can consider something else. Unless you are driving in the desert with a hot engine, I don't think the intercooler upgrade will make a significant change in power (not going to go into physics/details here)--besides it will cost a bunch! You could consider an "Aquamist" type (www.aquamist.co.uk) system for direct water injection into your turbocharge or do a simpler mist sprayer onto your intercooler for added evaporative cooling.

Jan 29, 2000 - 16:02 - From: Lynn Miller
Title: Service notes
Message: I used to own a beautiful white 91 Elan. I thought I would never part with it. I have the factory service notes complete with all updates. I also have the factory electrical manual. If anyone is interested in buying them please let me know. I now own an Esprit.

Jan 29, 2000 - 20:18 - From: mark h.
Title: Bill Lutons exhaust, holy cow....
Message: Just received my exhaust system from Bill Luton this week. Due to the destructive powers of united parcel service, the whole first batch of them were destroyed. Thankfully, Bill didn't loose interest in this item and had more made. All I can say is 'WOW'. Greatly improved throttle response from bottom to top and a quite pleasing exhaust note. Not boy racer ear splitting overkill, but a nice throaty 'sports car' sound. Not deafening going down the freeway, but you will notice it when you kick in the turbo. The car really launches when the turbo comes on and comes up to the red line really quickly. I swear that if the engine didn't have a cut off I would have blown it up the first time I floored it. It hits the red line so much faster that I have had to relearn my shift timing. My car is stock, I can only say that those of you that have aftermarket engine enhancements should really benefit from this item. The owner of the local shop that installed it said when he saw the system, 'man this baby is really gonna flow'. The overall fit and quality of workmanship are really first class. The bends in the pipe are really smooth, the welds are pretty, and the heavy gauge pipe should last a really long time. The oversized pipe has to flow at least twice the volume of the stock piece of garbage that Lotus supplied (I know they were constrained by price point considerations). I've owned my car for just over two years. When I bought the car the first thing I tried to do was replace the exhaust. Borla doesn't make them anymore and I was never able to find a system for the car. Perhaps there are other systems out there now but they are going to have to go a long way to beat this exhaust system in my humble opinion. Thank you Bill, for building such a great product for my baby. ~mark h.~

Jan 30, 2000 - 11:52 - From: Ash
Title: Trouble ahead?
Message: Hi, I had a problem with the oil pressure gauge wobbling about... After checking the oil, there was no reading on the dipstick at all!!! I've put a litre of 5W/40 fully synthetic in and it's just up to the minimum mark, so I need to add another litre. Pressure gauge is back to normal and everything seems fine. But after driving about with 2 litres lower than maximum oil, am I gonna have problems?

Jan 30, 2000 - 17:53 - From: Doug
Title: Live and learn
Message: Ash, shame on you! Either you neglected your Elan for a while (likely) or you have a leak somewhere (less likely). Luckily there is some idiot-factor in the system--but if the light was flickering on for a while then you should hold your head in shame! If the oil just slowly got that low then it is time for an oil change anyway. I bet you won't let that happen again.

Jan 30, 2000 - 18:15 - From: George
Title: Head Unit and Speakers
Message: Peter, personally, I think the Nakamichi and Alpine systems (head units) have passed their time. Nakamichi is good in making small home stereo systems, while Alpines... well, I just don't think they are anything special any more. Right now, I believe the two best manufactures for auto stereos are: Clarion and Pioneer (the Premiere Series). Clarion is good for the money, sounds extremely delicate and detailed. The Premiere Series will cost you more. However, when you install the system, you know where the extra bucks went. By the way, if you get a head unit, always get the top of the line! For the speakers, I recommend Sound Stream Reference Series, MB Quart, and A/D/S. I think for sound wise, the Sound Stream is a much better speaker than the MB. Others might disagree though. The sound for A/D/S, is just out of your imagination. However, A/D/S systems are extremely expensive. Speakers could cost you about $600 a pair. Also Peter, remember that for a system to perform well, you WILL need a nice amp. Sound Stream Reference Amps are good bets as well as other reference quality amps. Not to dog on Sony, but Sony car components suck! Spend more money on your stereo, then you won't need or want to upgrade your system later. Which in the end, is very cost effective. I have my stereo for about 6 years now, and it still sounds AWESOME; better than most after market systems out there today!

Jan 30, 2000 - 20:01 - From: Andy Y
Title: Worried?
Message: Tell 'em Doug! "yeah, shame on you Ash!" -- If you're really worried...just drain your oil pan on your next oil change and see if there are any shiny metal particles on the bottom...If there are...Bummer, dude...could be fragments from bearings, but most likely not. I wouldn't get too worried, unless you let it run hot w/o oil for an extended period of time. If it runs good, forget 'bout it! Andy.

Jan 30, 2000 - 20:26 - From: Andy Y
Title: Audio stuff
Message: All the major stereo manufct. are aware of what high-end "audiophiles" are looking for, so it's just a matter of preference. I know there's a lot of myth and misconceptions out there. Pioneer has an exclusive line called Premier (Kinda like Lexus is to Toyota). It costs a bit more, but nothing more than a change of model #'s. Eg: The Pioneer DEHP2000 is also the Premier DEHP200, just costs a bit more. It seems all the prestigious stereo makers (Alpine,Sony,JVC,Pio,etc...) of the past have lowered prices and standards due to cheap fabrication in countries like Malaysia and Singapore (Nothing personal, Peter!). If you look towards the high end, they're still made in Japan. I have been disappointed by Sony in the past, but this was due to the cheaply made units. They have a line called mobile ES, which is decent. As for spkrs, "buyer beware!". Many companies OEM their products overseas...I have taken labels off the backs of magnets, only to find "made in Taiwan!" -- which is not a bad thing, but you're paying for the name. These brands were Infinity and Kicker, who knows how many more! They should at least have the decency to remove these labels, so the consumers can fantasize about owning the Best! If any of you guys want a thorough spkr test, send a sample to me. I'm totally serious, I have a LMS (Loudspeaker Measurement System) program on my Pc and I can truly measure the performance of a driver. Through these tests, I've found many no-name brands perform brilliantly, so trust your ears. Andy.

Jan 31, 2000 - 06:08 - From: Rod Little
Title: Playstation - Gran Turismo 2 - M100
Message: I know this will be way off topic for some people, but I have to give the new game for the Playstation a mention. Gran Turismo 2 features the M100 as one of the available cars you can choose to race. There is a nice piece on the history of the M100, and the ability to tune it and change the wheels etc. All really nice and well worth a look if you have a Playstation.

Jan 31, 2000 - 11:53 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Audio Systems
Message: New Nakamichi aren't as brilliant anymore... the old one with a separate DAC , Head unit and CD changer were brilliant. I'll be looking at the pioneer range soon. The cheaper unit are bad.. made in malaysia .. poor quality parts and workmanship. I didn't buy the new Lotus Elise as it is made in Malaysia.. Been here for a year .. have seen any sold yet.. may be one or two less than ten.... worse sales very much worse than the elan. Andy, are dynaudio speakers great?? My last Rock Ford blew up. My three sony units blew up .. never buy it . The sony ES range is cover in Japan ... parts from Taiwan, Korea. I took the cover off and checked it. There could be same models with different quality for Asian markets.

Jan 31, 2000 - 12:38 - From: Ash
Title: ...Learning
Message: Cheers. I must admit I haven't checked the level for a couple of months, so I do hang my head in shame (Not had my Elan long, so still learning). But the oil light didn't come on, so fingers crossed. About GT2 on Playstation... I bought it when I realized the Elan was in it too, cool game. Is anyone else in the video games industry? I remember reading someone drove their Elan to the E3 show in the US.

Jan 31, 2000 - 13:21 - From: Jeff
Title: Greetings and Comments
Message: Well, greetings to all. I'm glad to see that the traffic on the board hasn't slowed down... Sorry I missed you guys at the get together, but my absence couldn't be helped =( Here are some new things that I know; As for your curiosity with the brake pads Doug, ordered and received the "Green Stuff" pads from EBC ($70). Took my car over to Plantinum for install. Results: Install took them 1 hour and the cost: $65. They washed and vacuumed the interior of my car and the brake service was top notch. It was also a fringe benefit to sit in the showroom in the presence of a Ferrari F50, 2 Bentley Turbo Rs, 2 Esprits, The Elise 190 and test mule (this is for the American conversion), the BMW M1 and the Panoz Roadster. In response to two of the recent threads; The windscreen is probably one of the best things I've got for the car so far. I have served as the Guinea Pig for Serious Auto and I'm finally finishing up all my notes and pictures to help them make a unique unit for the Elan. The unit I got was still the Mazda unit and I have managed to fit it in the Elan without major fuss. Its a little lower than I would like (1 - 1/2 inches), but it still keeps the wind out, doesn't rattle or shake and doesn't obstruct vision. I'm happy with the product and the workmanship. And yes, pictures will follow - you can check out my site for updates; www.geocities.com/scythe1969. As for the rear strut bar, I believe Bill asked... It wasn't that expensive, it was easy to install, it looks good... As far as performance is concerned... I don't push my car that much so I don't know if it contributes all that much. In theory it should - my friend Ron says it probably doesn't. Of course he told me that the front strut bar is needless as well... Anyway - can't do anything about it now. Okay - now for some venting. I would really love my Elan a lot more if I didn't have to deal with all the quirks - for instance; the pain it is to replace the front headlights (did this last week), the fact that I have to replace another window regulator (this has only survived for about a year now), the washer fluid light blinking like a christmas tree (the tank is full - have I checked the wiring? Should I have to????), the front lip is now beyond saving (you'd think the design would have been better) and finally, just because of the rain - the leaking!!!!!! It is hard to take the car seriously when there is a steady stream of water running down my arm and my pants. Went to the car show and just wished that the Elan had the durability of a plain old Honda... I'm to the point where the Elise looks like a way of "solving my problems". Any comments? Suggestions? Fire away...

Jan 31, 2000 - 14:19 - From: Doug
Title: Jeff's woes
Message: Good to hear from you, Jeff! I hope you feel better now having vented your Elan woes. Having driven an Elise for a day and 300 miles before (London to Hethel and back--awesome experience!), I can tell you that you will find as many or likely more things to loath about it! It leaked as bad as my Elan when I encountered rain, the seats were as soft as concrete, the engine purred like a huge sewing machine in the trunk/boot, and luckily I am still somewhat young because ingress and egress from the Elise should be sanctioned as a Gymnastic Event!! Alas, I did love the experience, but the Elan is still a better car! BTW, the F50 has a under-body tray that has to be painstakingly removed for even as minor a service as an oil change; this means big $$. My point, there are "things" to peeve you about all "exotic" cars. Further, I believe the Elan IS as reliable as your "utopian Honda"--and the fact that I have to try so hard to even meet up with other owners just shows how rare an experience we all have the good fortune of with our cars. The other thing is that I can remember exactly how rarely it rains here as I can recall all my very few "douche while you drive" experiences! ;-]

Jan 31, 2000 - 15:19 - From: Bill Luton
Title: Reliability
Message: Running an Isuzu engine low a quart or more of oil is no big deal. It's an Isuzu engine, not a Renault, you have to do a great deal more than that to do any damage at all. We run them low on oil intentionally some times to squeeze out a few more HP._ _ _Saying a Isuzu or Elan is as reliable as a honda (note the conspicuous use of all lower case letters, in this case a sign of total disrespect) would be fighting words around here. Having worked on hondas and Isuzus, the build quality and dependability of the Isuzu is far and above superior to anything honda has to offer. The use of the Isuzu engine and transmission accounts for much of the reason that the Elan M100 is considered the only Lotus car ever built that could be considered a reliable daily driver._ _ _Bill Luton

Jan 31, 2000 - 15:46 - From: charlie
Title: stuff
Message: hey all, i'm still looking for the drain holes 8) they must be somewhere and surely i'm not the only one with the problems, although i have put 4000+ miles on the car in the last few weeks most of it in the rain. gotta love freeways with dips that have 25cm of water to go through at 120mph... i need someone to drive in front of me and take pictures of me doing jet boat impersonations.. .....Ash that might have been me going to E3 as i am in the games industry....... as for an old topic new hotels to stay in, the coronado? del rio in coronado san diego, don't go to the loews version of it further down the road, go to the other, no air conditioning but an excellent 4star hotel, $300 a night for the rooms with a view.. american olde-worlde (read 15-20years) but be careful of the bar, the bartenders do not water anything down =) talking of hondies i saw the 2000 in the flesh the other day, nice looking car.

Jan 31, 2000 - 16:24 - From: Jeff
Title: Its true but...
Message: In respect to Bill's comment - yes, he may have a point. I don't know much about engine specs for either and my comment was based more on a stereotype. But I can say this without fear of rebuttal. Both Hondas and Isuzus have a better fit and finish with all other components aside from the engine. If the rest of the Elan had a little more finesse with the assembly we wouldn't have any need for this board with the exception of sharing "improvements" with others. This is the only car I've owned where many of these problems seem to be accepted as the "norm". My BMW and Toyota never had "leaks", shifter cable problems, dash light problems, speakers falling out place, misalignment of exterior panels, window regulator problems, CAS problems, exhaust pipe failure - etc, etc.... I don't mind spending the money, I just wish there were "final and complete" fixes for some of these problems. Is it really necessary to spend about $1000.00 (the pair) on a yearly basis just to have the windows continue to work???? All questions for your ponderance. BTW Doug, I bought the EBC brakes direct from them. They have an LA office. You can go here: www.ebc-brakes.com

Jan 31, 2000 - 17:08 - From: will
Title: boost control
Message: Doug thanks. i checked with a couple of the after market people. they all said the same thing. i know that apex has a very good one on the market. i already have an Apex turbo timer, iceman cold air intake, and a sparco exhaust system. I think i will make the boost controller my next move. I will have to wait. my car is being serviced for a broken thermostat.

Jan 31, 2000 - 18:37 - From: Sam
Title: Door Lock Repair Solved
Message: I took my car to have the door lock fixed. Per my last post, my door lock was jam and I was not able to open the door even from the inside. They had to replace one of the electronic part inside the door panel (got the part overnight from atlanta for $234.00). When they took the door panel to resolve the lock, they also fixed my driver side window from rattling. Also, got the front bumper repainted and the trunk realign due to an accident. The package repair cost me $805.00. Looking forward to the Next Gathering. Sam

Jan 31, 2000 - 21:53 - From: Peter Seow
Title: Reliability
Message: The main problem of the elan is the window regulator problem which is likely to go off after 1-3 years. True of non-turbo hondas, toyota. Wait till you get a turbo toyota--- oil leaks, sensor etc will start to play I know the problems are the same. suspensions are even worse ....Non turbo cars are more reliable.